Prod. 2006 - Dumbo (V) Get link Facebook X Pinterest Email Other Apps April 26, 2010 First a little ace-taste - The King's Men again...While you happily skip this part, please remember that this recording has NOT been heard outside the studio since 3/14/1941 but for two or three people - until now! Seq. 04.0 "Roustabouts"Directed by Sam Armstrong, assistant directors Lloyd Richardson and W. Hays, layout Dick Kelsey.This 3rd draft dated 5/7/41. Starting with a few Casey Jr. scenes by Paul Kossoff, Don Patterson and Don Tobin, we find [Warren] Schloat, Jerry Hathcock, Steve Bosustow and Bill Tytla doing a scene each. Jack Campbell seems to have handled most of the Roustabouts. Then we find Hugh Fraser, Edwin Fourcher, Jerome Brown, Karl Van Leuven, Russ Dyson, Frank Grundeen, Jim Escalante, Vern Witt, Claude Smith, Sandy Strother, Cornett Wood, Ed Aardal, Miles Pike, George Rowley, Josh Meador and John Reed, most of whom are effects animators.It is interesting to see how some scenes seem to have been replaced with others. Not surprising in a sequence like this, where they are building the suspense and in many cases have to try things out before they know if they work...Two scenes in there of 26 frames each... Get link Facebook X Pinterest Email Other Apps Comments Zartok-35April 26, 2010 at 1:09 PMSam Armstrong? Figures. Out of the entire film, this feels the most like an artsy Fantasia sequence. Jerry Hathcock is a surprise.ReplyDeleteRepliesReplyZartok-35April 26, 2010 at 2:48 PMAnd I must say, that recording is pretty neat too! (It wasn't loading right when I wrote my other comment.)If I'm not mistaken, this is the only song in ther film performed by The Kings Men. The 'Sportsmen', with Thurl Ravenscroft, do "Look out for Mr. Stork" and "Casey Junior".ReplyDeleteRepliesReplyHans PerkApril 26, 2010 at 5:44 PMThe type-written original production labels clearly identify the artists as The King's Men on the "Stork Song" and the "Song of the Rousta." Actually, on the latter it says "King's Men et al."ReplyDeleteRepliesReplyJohn V.April 28, 2010 at 8:14 AMNotice in scene 42 there's a vast difference in animation quality between Dumbo and his mother. Presumably C. Smith animated Dumbo and Steve Bosustow animated Mrs Jumbo.Also, a long shot seems to have been inserted between 23 and 24 (alternatively, scene 24 was divided into two different scenes from different angles) some time after the draft was made.ReplyDeleteRepliesReplySteven HartleyApril 30, 2010 at 10:13 AMA lot of animators are credited in this big sequence, and I wasn't suprised to see that Jack Campbell animated the roustabouts, so much he contributed to the sequence, and I notice a lot of Sandy Strother, Stephen Bosustow, John Reed? Wow, a lot of uncredited people on this sequence.I've always liked the character Casey Jr, and its animated by Don Patterson, Paul Kossoff and Don Tobin, now I have new animated heroes?ReplyDeleteRepliesReplyJohn V.April 30, 2010 at 4:38 PMThere seems to have been a distinction made between the named effects animators and the unnamed "Special Efx" animators - presumably the former animated "props" and the latter animated the rainfall?ReplyDeleteRepliesReplyJonathanMay 12, 2010 at 7:03 AMHallo. Is there any way that you could make the audio available for download? It's really pretty cool. Dumbo is such an amazing film. Thanks,-jonathanReplyDeleteRepliesReplyHans PerkMay 12, 2010 at 8:48 AMHi Jonathan! Thanks for being the second person to comment on the audio. I am REALLY surprised that I have not had more reactions to it, it never having been heard like this before.That said, I do not really want to get into trouble with music publishers, ASCAP etc, as they are a powerful bunch. This is why I did not just add a link for downloading. I hope you can see my concerns! --HansReplyDeleteRepliesReplyJonathanJune 1, 2010 at 7:20 PMYeah, I'm all for copyrights and creators getting their due, but it's too bad that sometimes it means thing go unpublished, I'll just have to visit this page whenever I want to listen to it!I am surprised as well! I love hearing/seeing stuff like that, the magic of the making. It's amazing how it goes from normal talking and noise, to unified music that we all know and love, haha.Anyways, thanks for your blog, its a great inspiration.-jonathanReplyDeleteRepliesReplySteven HartleyJuly 9, 2010 at 2:13 PMYou forgot to mention Ugo D'Orsi as effect animator in this sequence.Notice that in Scene 48 is credited to Sandy Strother and it is 2-07 worth of footage and that scene is a deleted scene!ReplyDeleteRepliesReplyAdd commentLoad more... Post a Comment
Prod. CM8 - The Picnic January 25, 2012 Directed by Burt Gillett. Released 10/23/30, this FINAL draft dated 9/13/30. Animation by Dave Hand, Jack King, Charlie Byrne, Norm Ferguson, Dick Lundy, Johnny Cannon, Les Clark, Ben Sharpsteen, Tom Palmer, Wilfred Jackson, Jack Cutting and Frenchy de Trémaudan. Found on the Treasures DVD Mickey Mouse in Black and White, Vol. 2 Disk 1 or on YouTube, though in very low quality here . A cute little film, this is actually a landmark in animation history. "Can I bring Rover?" Little Rover is, of course, none other than Pluto! Fergy's scene 27 is often "quoted" when discussing the origins of this the most famous of cartoon canines. It is very interesting to see the difference in drawing styles. Fergy tries to draw a dog and mostly does a very nice job. Compare this with e.g. Palmer's attempt in the final scene. It is a "funny cartoon balloon animal," a much more simplistic and symbolic way of drawing. Palmer, Cannon and Lundy seem not to be quite up to... Read more
Prod. CM20 - Mickey Cuts Up April 25, 2009 Mickey Cuts Up was directed by Burt Gillett and released 11/30/1931. It is found on Disney Treasures DVD: Mickey Mouse in Black & White Volume 1 disc 1. You may still find it here on YouTube. Have a look, if you need a clearer understanding of the following documents! Gillett left some documents pertaining Mickey Cuts Up behind, and I would like here to show a few of these that I recently lucked into. It is interesting to speculate in which order these were written - they seem to all be in Gillett's own handwriting and would probably date to late August or early September 1931. First we have two pages, numbered 1 & 2, with ideas linked to names, Otto and Webb, which to me seems to mean that the ideas were originally thought out by either Otto Englander or Webb Smith. There are interesting ideas that did not make the film - they are crossed out: "mower bumps up and down on hedge - trick cuts." Some were not crossed out and made it in the film: "Cuts down tre... Read more
Average Animator Footage in 1938 March 28, 2007 Two and a half months after the premiere of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, on March 11, 1938, Producer/Supervising Director Dave Hand issued this memo called DEADLINES. Of course, everybody in the animation business has gotten memos called this, but here is an insight into just how much was produced by the (now) famous animators at Disney's in the Golden Age. Fred Moore stands out as missing on this memo, but otherwise it is quite a list of top talent. (Bernard Garbutt animated?) Now, I do not remember when Disney changed to a 5-day work week, but let's say it was before this time: in this case Norm Ferguson had a weekly average of 35 feet, or 23 seconds 8 frames! Pretty high up we also find Fred Spencer, Frank Thomas and Bill Tytla, with 30 feet, or 20 seconds each. On the other end of the scale is Larry Clemmons with 10 feet or 6 seconds and 16 frames, followed by Ollie Johnston and Don Lusk with 12.5 feet or 8 seconds 8 frames each... Since the second page was a bit ha... Read more
Sam Armstrong? Figures. Out of the entire film, this feels the most like an artsy Fantasia sequence.
ReplyDeleteJerry Hathcock is a surprise.
And I must say, that recording is pretty neat too! (It wasn't loading right when I wrote my other comment.)
ReplyDeleteIf I'm not mistaken, this is the only song in ther film performed by The Kings Men. The 'Sportsmen', with Thurl Ravenscroft, do "Look out for Mr. Stork" and "Casey Junior".
The type-written original production labels clearly identify the artists as The King's Men on the "Stork Song" and the "Song of the Rousta." Actually, on the latter it says "King's Men et al."
ReplyDeleteNotice in scene 42 there's a vast difference in animation quality between Dumbo and his mother. Presumably C. Smith animated Dumbo and Steve Bosustow animated Mrs Jumbo.
ReplyDeleteAlso, a long shot seems to have been inserted between 23 and 24 (alternatively, scene 24 was divided into two different scenes from different angles) some time after the draft was made.
A lot of animators are credited in this big sequence, and I wasn't suprised to see that Jack Campbell animated the roustabouts, so much he contributed to the sequence, and I notice a lot of Sandy Strother, Stephen Bosustow, John Reed? Wow, a lot of uncredited people on this sequence.
ReplyDeleteI've always liked the character Casey Jr, and its animated by Don Patterson, Paul Kossoff and Don Tobin, now I have new animated heroes?
There seems to have been a distinction made between the named effects animators and the unnamed "Special Efx" animators - presumably the former animated "props" and the latter animated the rainfall?
ReplyDeleteHallo. Is there any way that you could make the audio available for download? It's really pretty cool. Dumbo is such an amazing film.
ReplyDeleteThanks,
-jonathan
Hi Jonathan! Thanks for being the second person to comment on the audio. I am REALLY surprised that I have not had more reactions to it, it never having been heard like this before.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I do not really want to get into trouble with music publishers, ASCAP etc, as they are a powerful bunch. This is why I did not just add a link for downloading. I hope you can see my concerns!
--Hans
Yeah, I'm all for copyrights and creators getting their due, but it's too bad that sometimes it means thing go unpublished, I'll just have to visit this page whenever I want to listen to it!
ReplyDeleteI am surprised as well! I love hearing/seeing stuff like that, the magic of the making. It's amazing how it goes from normal talking and noise, to unified music that we all know and love, haha.
Anyways, thanks for your blog, its a great inspiration.
-jonathan
You forgot to mention Ugo D'Orsi as effect animator in this sequence.
ReplyDeleteNotice that in Scene 48 is credited to Sandy Strother and it is 2-07 worth of footage and that scene is a deleted scene!